![]() ![]() If you dont know what to look for, you wont know they exist. If the PWA is a new kind of app, why cant I find one in a list, collection, archive, or store? That is where people look for apps.How does the typical user know when a PWA is available? Websites dont advertise PWA "enabled-ness". On a phone, how many people are going to go through the hoops of "pin to home screen" when they can just install an app from the store – because thats the key. But from a typical user perspective – meh, at least on a desktop. I can also see how someone's personal workflow might benefit – we all have our own ways of doing things that work for us. Yes, from a developer perspective, I can envision some tangible benefits. I see PWAs being special as you describe them as highly dependent on your personal frame of reference.Personally, from my limited experience with them now, I see them as something that wont amount to anything more than they already are. I also believe that the perspective of the types of folks that make up your audience would be different than the average consumer, which might be different still to an enterprise user, and different again to that of a developer. I would be very interested in reading why you think PWAs are special today, as I just dont see it. In reply to paul-thurrott:Given our discussion here, I think you have the subject for an article or two (in fact, I think you may have written about PWAs in the past, though I have slept since then and havent had my coffee yet so I may be misremembering). So instead of opening a browser, I have a dedicated app listing in the start menu and a dedicated app window for it Log in to Reply The operating system sees it as a regular app. Photopea is another PWA that I use, it's a web app based photoshop alternative, it's a website/web app that can be installed as a PWA. ![]() The only problem is that it doesn't have proper offline support, the app is 'offline aware' but unfortunately, I can't view my emails offline. I use as my main mail client instead of the Windows 10 Mail app. The offline support could just something simple like displaying a 'no connection banner' and displaying cached for example, it's a web app, the Progressive part of PWA is getting that tab to run in a separate window, getting the notifications that are in to plug into the system notifications on Windows and Mac, and allowing background syncing, where you don't need to be running in a tab or window, but still getting those notifications. In reply to JustMe:PWA is a collection of features that make a web app more like a native app, the big one is offline support and background notifications & syncing.PWA stands for progressive web apps, as in they're standard web apps that progressively integrate native platform features like notifications and offline support. Not trying to be difficult, just trying to understand. If I am on a desktop, I'd bookmark the site.I grant you, it might just be my own workflow pattern. If you have several PWAs pinned and Microsoft updates Edge, are those PWAs affected in any way?) In my case, if I am interested in something enough to want to "pin it" to a home screen on a phone, I'm going to look and see if there is a native app or bookmark it. Is your PWA affected if you clear your cookies regularly? How do they handle 3rd-party authentification? Is there a potential security risk – like spoofing a "pin to home screen" link? Is there a central repository, archive, or list of PWAs anywhere? In the case of PWA use on a mobile, what happens if you upgrade your phone – your bookmarks and native apps can transfer, will your PWAs? If your browser of choice is upgraded, will your PWAs take advantage of that upgrade? (By way of example – you use Edge. How do you tell if a website is "PWA enabled"? My experience is that in general, you cant. In reply to paul-thurrott:While I certainly understand the potential advantages you describe, I still dont get it – apart from a personal preference. Note: that last is a limitation in Windows and maybe also macOS Linux has a mechanism for overriding program icons. It could be used to create shortcuts to launch PWAs under Firefox, and the only thing which would be missing compared to Blink browsers is that running PWAs would display Firefox's own program icon for running instances. However, it is possible to use special purpose profiles to run PWAs in their own (browser) windows with no browser UI components, the same as with browsers using Blink.Since the Ice utility in Linux is just Python scripts with a very simple GUI, should be simple to port to Windows without much difficulty. In reply to wright_is:All(?) Chromium based browsers support PWA installation, Firefox based browsers don't support this, but they can still run the PWA as a normal tab.Firefox lacks a feature to install PWAs, and lacks the ability to use any icon other than its own program icon on OS desktops. ![]()
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